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  • nixstor
    07-03 04:25 PM
    Hi all,

    Regarding the recent goofup by USCIS, please rate this story _Americans/who

    if this receives more than 100 users rating for the story in next 5-10 hours - it would be displayed on the first page. is read by hundreds of thousands of web users and there is high chance of getting picked by main stream media.

    Note that you ll have to signup as member to rate it - it ll just take 30 secs of your time.

    Sorry I wasn't able to submit the official IV url since it is not accepted by Digg.


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  • Desichakit
    07-17 12:33 PM
    As per USCIS VISA Bulletin of July 2008. If there is spillover from EB2 to EB3 the it will benefit EB3 India as Visas have to be allocated to more retrogessed country first. Even if that is not that case and numbers are evenly spread even then EB3 India stands to be at advantage. I think EB3 India will benefit from this intrepretation eventually.

    EB2 India 2008

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  • grupak
    12-13 12:04 PM
    --I think, per country quota system was framed with diversification as underlying principle, not discrimination.

    Depending on which country you are from, it may seem like discrimination or fair system upholding diversity.

    If you are from India, you would hate it. There are truckloads of programmers in that country. But if you are the only graduate with programming skills from a country like timbaktoo (?), you would love it. You also got a shot at american dream.

    This EB quota system reminds me of Caste reservation system in India. To some that is fair, to others, it is unfair. Depends on which side of the fence you are.

    Fairness or not is not the issue. Question is can it be challenged in a court? Diversity at work place is encouraged through outreach for example. But you cannot discriminate in employment based on national origin. Employers can't put quotas for employee diversity. Employment based immigration I don't think can count because part of the requirement for holding the job is that the employee have a valid work authorization.

    For example, someones H1b 6yrs runs out the without possibility of extension, you cannot cry discrimination from the employer for not hiring you beyond 6yrs. As I said, the employers don't force you to not change job or job title. People don't because they will lose their GC or spot in the GC queue.

    As an unrelated side note, the current quota system is something that has evolved from past policies some of which was used to restrict citizens of certain countries.

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  • bayarea07
    07-27 07:26 PM
    If you read carefully that is what vkkrishn said that even after saying 'No' multiple times IBO's
    keep bothering you until you are rude/harsh to them.
    Is it not law of the land that if you keep bothering a harmless dog even he is going to come bite you and that is what happened with most of the folks here and i do not understand how come any self respecting man can take that rudeness day in and out UNLESS THEY ARE BEING BRAINWASHED TO BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WHO SAYS 'NO' IS A LOOSER.

    Nobody harassing anyone. You are doing it to yourself. If you are not interested why would they bother you?
    Arrested?? make me laugh...please go ahead.


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  • saketkapur
    07-15 07:42 PM
    I filed my I-485 in July last year. My PD is EB2-Feb 2007. I could not file for my wife since she is pursuing her medical residency on a J1 visa with the 2 year HRR requirement.
    My queries are as follows:
    1. For the interfiling to happen does she need to be done with her J1 waiver or even when she is pursuing it as that is a H1B visa and I will be the principal applicant?
    3. If I get my green card before she is done with her waiver then can I still file for her later or will her case then be treated as a family based petition?
    I will really appreciate if you can provide some insight regarding the same.
    Saket Kapur

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  • krisganta
    09-04 10:51 AM
    I agree..admin please delete this thread. This has nothing to do with the immigration issues that we are facing.


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  • Munna Bhai
    02-15 11:49 AM

    First thanks 4 your advice. We'll send 2 separate cheques, one 4 me and one 4 my husband.Is this what U meant when suggesting 2 send "my own cheque"?

    Why do U say I have good chance to have my AOS adjudecated? I really needed to hear that. Can U be more specific? Any idea/guess how long could it take to get GC?

    About EAD. I 'm on H4, not working yet, that's why I am eager to get EAD. Do U think that there is no chance to get it within the 90 days? My husband is on H1B an he has I40 already approved. He won't leave his job that's for sure.

    What "IV" stands for? Where can I found more about it?

    Follow what Bestia says. What Bestia meant is that, you should send your personnal cheques so that you can track it. Yes, there are good chances of AOS approval because that is normal thing, unless you are out-of-status or if your employer is in black list. No one knows how long it will take to get a GC but do look for other options like EAD etc.

    Hope this helps. Ask as many questions as you have, we will do our best to answer.

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  • small2006
    08-18 06:41 PM
    You are so wrong here...its not about growing balls or Americans getting frisked in Indian airports.

    It is SRK's BIG EGO that was hurt, the fact that the officer did not "recognize" SRK - the "king khan" and made him go through a rough ordeal. That is all it is about. And to me SRK has never been an honest human being. It is all a put on appearance, whether its in his movies or real life. He is very measured and guarded when talking to the media and presents his affable side. So get over it and look at the incident for what it is - i.e, SRK's big ego burst open. Its not about American security or Indian security or racial profiling. Everyone is just trying to make it out to be that but you need to be able to see thorugh that.

    When a person of Dr Kalam's stature did not even talk about his experience with Continental until months later, who the heck is SRK to make it out to be such a big deal? What is his achievement and/or contribution to the country after all? Making loads of money? Buying houses in London and Dubai?? Give me a freakin' break.

    simply racial profiling.

    i dont think SRK is over reacting.. many desis who are accepting that its a way of life suffer from "Slave Mentality".

    When was the last time.. a US diplomat or US socialite was frisked and detained for 2 hrs in indian airports?

    To all the jocks who argue "its part of life" advise grow some balls and realize one thing.. no matter how long u live here.. no matter whether u have GC or PC...u will always be treated like third class citizens.

    In the end its the color.. do you know beta.

    for the record.i am no SRK fan.

    Mamooty.. who is he?


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  • drirshad
    07-29 03:58 AM
    I live in MI and have worked for Big3 (GM/Ford/Chrysler) over the years. Last year Chrysler got an offer that their IT budget can be cut by 30% if they give all contracts to this company. After good research and due to money problems Chrysler took the offer. Came in TCS & Convasys took away most of the jobs and off shored them in no time. I moved out last year and have seen whole teams being wiped out. Only the manager who was there before stayed.

    Not sure if this offshore is good in long term or not. Obviously there will be fewer perms.

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  • software7
    05-31 01:52 PM
    05/29/2009: TSC is Reportedly in Line with NSC in Processing Time Reduction and Backlog Reduction

    They have completed adjudication of almost all of the I-140 petitions which were filed during the FY 2007 Visa Bulletin fiasco (July and August 2007). As for the EB-485 applications, they have preadjudicated 85,000 cases which await the visa number availability beginning from the next fiscal year.

    since the EB-485 cases involving fairly early priority dates have been preadjudicated, once the visa numbers progress forward beginning from the new fiscal year, October 2009, a large number of EB-485 waiters are likely to receive approvals of their long-awaited I-485 applications. Hats off to NSC and TSC!!

    Lately, I-485 waiters have been receiving RFEs or interview scheduling in a fairly large number. From these reports, we can draw a speculation that these cases have fairly early priority dates and are now undergoing such preadjudications in anticipation for the upcoming visa number availability in early part of FY 2010. They may receive approvals of their cases fairly early in the new fiscal year. With such a good news, please enjoy the SUMMER! .

    This excerpt isfomsite with Title 05/29/2009: TSC is Reportedly in Line with NSC in Processing Time Reduction and Backlog Reduction


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  • eyeswe
    07-21 04:33 PM
    I think we have met somewhere OR I have seen you somewhere...
    Would you like to be financially independent?
    Are u from XYZ Engg College in Mumbai

    The Amway cheer ...

    ... There is lot of excitement in this room with X,Y,X, A etc.. and this excitement is going all the way to P, Q, R on the phone.. Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Heyyyyyy, Heyyyyyy, Heyyyyyyy " and folks jump around to show the excitement

    Needless to say I have been in several Amway bait situations. My room mates were Amway folks and we use to have several meetings at my place -- upline, downline used to be the manthra...

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  • byeusa
    07-11 01:00 AM
    Don't worry. SSA would be broke by then. and then the dollar would have devaluated by another 50%. Healthcare for the masses is a failure, immigration policy is a failure, schooling system is failing in majority of the nation, rampant violence with kids shooting in the schools, is any think that is right in this society? Glorification of Paris Hilton on CNN continously, Britney Spears in the news on front pages of the magazines.. how much more trashy can it be?


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  • ksvreg
    10-15 03:24 PM
    If spillover works, logic is simple. Pending applications ~290K. Quot available ~140k
    So, in just two years, every category should be current. Lets not scratch our heads.

    Please work out the data versus pending/quota/spillover. Do VISA DATES ENGINEERING. And figure out the visa dates process/workflow and put in front of DOS/USCIS to adopt. Or lobby to adopt. or rally to adopt.

    Otherwise our math will always be different from DOS/USCIS math on visa dates ;)

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  • hiralal
    06-05 07:01 AM
    Now, what would really be effective is for our own people that are already naturalized and integrated and assimilated and digested in the US system to stand up for our cause.
    I agree with bajrangbali :D, dollars, gold and green cards will shower from the sky, all men will have 5 wives (add your own dreams here ..), etc etc before you see our own people (i.e. other legal immigrants) stand up for our cause. there maybe exceptions but most / many will be happy to see us leave !!!
    as the famous saying goes have come alone in this world your work alone and don't depend or expect anything from others


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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 08:36 AM
    actaccord: I also want to see civilized discussion. But that is not possible with people like PlainSpeak/GCPerm. I know this person. He has always tried to create Eb2/Eb3 divide. The problem is not with language of some of the posts you referred as "uncivilized", the problem is that for every post there are hundreds of people silently reading each posts. Each post influences those silent readers. If unanswered snakes like GCPerm can cause a lot of damage.

    In an open anonymous forum you need to develop a thick skin. Person of every strip and belief can post anything. If you cannot handle this, it is better for you to resign from accessing any or all websites.For a period of time, I felt the same way as you did but it does not work that way. Stop this nonsense of political correctness when snakes like GCPerm spit venom to divide everyone.

    A forum is a combination of all sorts of ideas and expression. You may like some and you may not like some. If you or your friends find it so difficult to stand this expression, then please sit quietly in your home because you cannot join hands with anyone in this real and rough world. How long are we going to " try to gain confidence" of more members? How long? I do not want to gain confidence of anyone anymore. If I was to make a decision, I would say that I don't need those members who cannot stand a little bit of rough reality. I am not going to do anything to "gain confidence" of others. If you want to work then good for you. If you don't want to work on the issue affecting your family, then so be it. You are doing a favor to no one but yourself when you speak with your Congressman. So Good luck and Good bye. But don't preach civility to everyone if you cannot first respond to PlainSpeak. I hate this Eb2/Eb3 fight.
    Ahh greyhair my friend the measure of how civilized a person acts is not how calculated by how other people act but how you act towards other people when they act civilized or uncivilized. Before calling someone uncivilized you should first take time to read your response to actaccord. If you do not get it please read it a few times more. At some point of time you will certaily slap your head and exclaim
    Did is Say Thatttt. What was i on when is said it ???????
    Yes introspection is a valuable art and should be used more by everyone

    Remember that is the statement for every post there are hundreds of people silently reading each posts is correct then so is this statement correct for every response there are hundreds of people silently reading each response and forming an opinion about IV senior members and donars

    I will not comment on any of your other irrelevent and immaterial logic about anonymous forum and how members should act in it because actaccord has given you a fitting (Civilized) answer to it and there is nothing more i can add

    I will certainly comment on this GCPerm issue. I mean who is this guy ?? Has he messed up you peoples mind so bad that you keep seeing him everywhere. I mean what has he said that was so bad that you guys start frothing at you mouth and behaving like this.

    You know what would be an easier way to find out the truth. Go through the old post of GCPERM and then read my post. I am sure you will realize the diference and if you stil have doubts

    Read my lips. I AM NOT GCPERM and if you guys keep doing this i will have to go hunt him down and get him back to this forum just to prove myself. I don't have to and i am not sure how to find him but i will try and do that if you guys continue with this GCPerm = PlainSpeak nonsense. Now based on what i am hearing about GCPERM from you guys do you think it is for your benefit if he also comes back to this forum. I mean you guys are doing a really poor job of reacting to me and my posts in a civilized manner as it is

    NAhhhhhhhhhh i knew you would see things the right way once someone explains it to you clearly

    So i would go ahead and assume that this GCPERM is PlainSpeak nonsense wil not be repeated again, because if you keep doing that more it just might blow up in you face

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  • GCOP
    09-23 01:15 PM
    I agree with this. Please Include Current Homeowners in the proposal, who are already contributing to economy while still waiting for the Greencard. Current Homeowners should not be be left out from the proposal.

    I like your idea, but please consider current homeowners as well in your proposal. I understand that if new homeowners are removed from the queue I am standing in, it will benefit me. But seriously, I will not get immediate relief. I will have to continue to wait in some queue for another decade. I have been in the US since 1994, completed 6 years of education and have been employed since 2000. My PD was current for 2 months, I am still sitting here looking at a dismal October Visa Bulletin. Yes, I bought my house 4 years ago. Why can't I be included in this list?

    Should I promise to buy a second home? Will that put me in the category you are proposing?


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  • rb_248
    12-13 11:39 AM
    Hello All,

    First and foremost, i must thank everyone from IV, who is working tirelessly to resolve the issues of retrogression in the GC process. As an affected individual I am very grateful that leaders of IV are ready to contribute so much effort for its goals. And even though I do not actively work for the IV agenda, I have contributed money to some IV action items.

    I have a question/suggestion regarding the IV agenda. On IV's about page, pt number 2 asserts amongst other things,
    The Discriminatory Per-Country Rationing of Green Cards That Exacerbates the Delays.

    and further in the same point

    We do not allow employers to discriminate hiring based on their nationality or country of origin. Therefore, the employment-based immigration, which is a derivative benefit of employment, should also be free from rationing based on nationality or country of birth.

    I am curious to know what is the "legal" strength of these assertions is. Are they just "moral" statements or can the validity of these statements be tested in the legal framework of this country? In other words, my question is what is the constitutionality of the "Per Country Caps" in Employment / Family Based Immrigration procedures.
    A lot of Laws and Statutes have been challenged in the Judicial System of USA. And many more are challenged every year. And if the laws are not constitutional then they can be repealed.

    I am sure the leaders of IV must have thought about this argument however a quick search of the forums with 'constitutionality' as the search term did not return any results.

    IV's efforts to utilize Lobbying to bring about change to alleviate/eliminate retrogression are certainly beneficial. However, if IV has not already considered and eliminated this legal argument, then it should explore whether there is any substance to this approach.

    Hence this post. Below are some of the links that might be relevant.

    wikipedia article on constitutionality (
    wikipedia category on US immigration case law ( ion_case_law)

    thanks and sincerely,


    This is a good point. But, in its current state, will not fly. This can only be used as a supporting evidence for our cause. Lawmakers will never remove country cap. We can use this point in pushing any of our other agendas.

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  • JazzByTheBay
    05-04 02:41 AM
    This discussion is way off topic for this forum.

    A nation has responsibility (to the extent possible in case of those not residing within its borders) for protecting its citizens.

    Once you give up the citizenship of your country of origin, your allegiance, and therefore the expectation of "protection", should be towards and from the country of your citizenship, not from a "foreign government".


    Tomorrow if we or our generations are getting killed in the US, would you say the same thing. Now do you understand why the country needs to care about its people no matter where they are.

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  • Macaca
    07-03 09:27 PM
    Done.. Thanks.
    Ramus and Tikka,

    I did not follow the 100 page thread. It has more issues that I must have missed. Please collect them and keep checking if I missed any issues. Thanks!

    06-28 12:42 PM
    Good idea. But I am going to TSC.

    This is what I'm doing. I'm flying to Nebraska service center friday night. Will put my shelter in front on PO box and will remain there until Monday morning. Once the USCIS guy comes up to pick up the mails, I'm just going to hand deliver my paper before he even opens his mail box.

    Want to join me ;)

    07-10 09:53 PM
    I know how to get in and out .......... just kidding.

    appreciate your ego strength man...thanks for the edit...u r the man..

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