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  • unseenguy
    06-12 09:05 AM

    I am fairly confident, touch wood, that I would not be dependent on India for a handout. I have paid my debts to the Indian society by investing in India. I did not graduate out of an IIT but I did graduate out of the 2nd best engineering college (atleast then) in Rajasthan, India. I am sure you guys would have guessed it by now. Just for the record, I had to pay full expensive tuition and my education was not subsidized. By my responsible style of life, I believe that I have become a self made man and so would hopefully be of material help but not a public burden to India. be rest assured !!!

    2nd best engineering college in Rajasthan? There were 25 states in India , now including IITs, & NITs and BITS, that would make it, atleast 30 colleges in India which are better than yours. And here we are just talking of engineering colleges. Not even mentioned about medical or others. So yours would be like probably 50th best college in India. That is certainly not the best and brightest. I am from top 10 engineering colleges of India at the time.

    My brother is a gold medalist in CS from India's top NIT and has done MS here from top 10 universities. My wife has also done MS from here (top 20 school) with a good GPA.

    So give up ur GC now for recapture and go back! The better and brighter are waiting for it behind you.

    What do you mean by not being a public burden? You will still eat up a job , that can be retained for India's best and brightest, in case you do return due to economy or healthcare factors here.

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  • sarath99
    10-20 01:00 PM

    My sister is a citizen and she applied GC for my parents who are in India.She applied for I-130 in April and it was approved in 2 months.She now has to fill the form I-864 and is in the process of doing so.Meanwhile my parents would like to visit USA.They'll be coming in December and be staying for 6 mos.They have a 10 yr visa and visited us back in 2004.
    My question is it ok for them to visit USA?I read that they might be denied entry becasue of their approved I-130.We do not want to apply AOS here and they will return in June 09.

    Thanks for any advice.

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  • sameer2730
    06-16 02:14 PM

    Please stop responding to Dilip. He is feeding of our frustrations. If he was still retrogressed he would be singing a different tune but never mind. Every response we give him makes him feel pleasure at our plight. To tell you the truth our plight is not bad. We just like to think it is. We have AC21 option. Remember when you could not file I485 how much you coveted that one option. If the employer withdraws I-140 and we have to file MTR so be it. People come out of it unscathed. It is still a low probability event. Take the bull by the horns and you will come out stronger. Even when you get your GC life's problems will not go away. We still have to fight for a better job, better pay, better quality of living and then we will not have the excuses we have now (Thats how Dilips of the USA are made).

    So lets take pride in ourself, use our options wisely and ignore people like Dilip. He is just pampering him shattered pride by telling himself we cannot get the salary he wants due to H1b , outsourcing .... . He is not worth it.

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  • jonty_11
    06-28 12:24 PM
    For July 485 filing, can I send papers in Saturday June 30th ?
    No wonder they are expecting retrogresson first wk of July...
    Guys take it easy..!!!!


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  • ilwaiting
    03-17 10:33 AM
    The sooner LC substitution goes away the lesser we have to deal with such questions. And the sooner we would get our green cards.

    hi All,

    Can someone give me advice on this:

    I have 4 yrs Bachelors + 6.5 yrs of IT exp. i am being offered a Pre- approved labor(EB3-PD-Nov.2003), which was filed for someone with a condition-Bachelors + 4 years exp., at the time of filing.
    i graduated in June 2000, so i am about 1 year short for the 2003 PD. However i did some part time work during college in India and the lawyer says if i can get exp. letter from that company on a letter head, that should suffice.
    i am concerned if that India exp. during graduation will work or not.
    Has anyone faced a situation like this?
    the (part time exp)company was very small, can this be risky? what do you guys think?


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  • sumagiri
    07-23 02:09 PM
    Reply to sumagiri's post

    This kind of statements are used just to bluff the congress. Bear in mind 140k is the quota and may not be the target. Looks like they did it again (I mean bluff DOS and Congress) and DOS had no choice to move the dates so that overseas visa post can consume the remaining visa.

    Probably you are right !


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  • iv_only_hope
    07-24 06:15 PM
    Have some more comments from Atty Ron. Might be interesting to discuss if already not brought up.

    "Some thoughts on India E2 movement over the next two months.
    More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.

    Even with a cutoff date in early 2003, the CIS has sufficient inventory of Indian E2 adjustments on file to use up the remaining inventory of E2 visas for this fiscal year. The reason that the Visa Office advanced the priority date is to move it up to the point where overseas consular posts can take up the slack left by the CIS's inability to close out enough cases and avoid wasting visas this year.

    The CIS inventory of pending cases is massive. If there were no quota at all - if everyone were suddenly "current" - and no new cases were filed after today, it would still take the CIS four to five years to close out all of the pending cases that they already have in their inventory.

    Overseas consular posts maintain inventories of cases as well. When the priority date for a particular case starts to edge forward and it appears that the applicant may become "current' in the not too distant future, the applicant is told to submit all required supporting documents to the post or the NVC. When this is done, the applicant is reported to the Visa Office as being "documentarily qualified." This means that the case is in a position where an immigrant visa can be issued to the applicant as soon as a visa number becomes available.

    The inventory of documentarily qualified cases with current priority dates at a consular post never exceeds that post's ability to process all such cases within sixty days. Consular posts have very high bandwidth processing capabilities. No matter how many cases become current, they are able to process all of them within sixty days.

    The reason that the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward is that the Visa Office fears that the CIS will not be able to adjudicate enough adjustment of status applications to exhaust the annual quota. They have advanced the cutoff date in order to make more cases overseas eligible for final processing.

    This means that overseas consular posts have exhausted their inventories of Indian E2 cases with priority dates earlier than 2006 and the Visa Office had to move the cutoff date forward in order to make more cases eligible to be closed out.

    This does not mean that the CIS has closed out all of the pre-2006 cases pending in their inventory. Far from it. When the new fiscal year starts, Indian E2 is likely to retrogress back to late 2002 or early 2003. This is roughly the point reached by the CIS in processing their inventory of pending cases.

    Please understand that this is a temporary phenomenon and due entirely to the difference in the processing capabilities of the CIS and the overseas consular posts.

    I hope this clarifies matters."

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  • pmpforgc
    03-29 06:34 PM
    Thank you for your personal opinion. India was doing well when Vajpayee was PM. He is not some management honcho. It is a vision of the person that is more important. Manmohan is a learned man and has provided country with real good service but real power rests with Sonia and her son Rahul.

    Hence. Its a question of ideology in the long run and given my background, BJP govt suits me better than Congress. So I prefer Advani over Sonia.


    I mostly agree with you about Bajpai and Sonia. Bajpai is really a visionary and was good for India.

    But we are not talking about Bajpai any more, We are talking baout Advani. He is not Bajpau and he is not visonary like Bajpai he is only Taksadhuu like all other politicians.

    I would surely prefer MODI, MANMOHAN, Chidambaram even LALU compare to ADVANI to manage India as Priminister.

    We are talking about Who should be Priminister of India, not which party should rule.

    So try to be more specific when you reply next time.

    I dont go by Party, even in BJP in Gujarat Keshubahi was Worst CM for state where as Modi from Same party is really good. so we should look at who will manage country in the end. I agree that Bajpai and Manmohan has done good job. But not Advani he should be even next to Mayawati in line to be PM !!


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  • logiclife
    06-28 08:14 PM
    Read this memo:

    USCIS has indeed broken the law by doing what it did this month.

    Like I said on the other thread. AILA's latest memo proves the USCIS violated regulations by rejecting EB3-other 485 petitions in the middle of the month even though those petitions were current in June.

    And like I said, USCIS is now acting like an undocumented immigrant violating laws and regulations. And we just finished an 18 month debate in the senate about the law abiding issues of immigrants.

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  • gimme_GC2006
    05-03 09:12 AM
    as long as puppet Mannu and ring mistress sonia are in New delhi, Indian govt will do nothing...I dont support LTTE at any cost but condemn civilian killing.


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  • luncheSpecials
    02-15 04:38 PM
    I totally blame bodyshoppers for the mess

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  • alterego
    12-14 01:33 PM
    Think of lobbying as polite negotiation.
    Think of Supreme court case as picking a fist fight, in which we are badly out numbered.
    Once you have started a fist fight it is much harder to negotiate, especially from a loosing position.

    This is exactly correct. It is not the question of right or wrong here. That is what gets folks so upset on this thread, they feel since their viewpoint s right then.......... Most neutral observers like mbartosik can see this as unjust and there may be many in the US as well, however certainly not the majority. However, there are many ways in which this could backfire. One example is the recently seen debate over illegal immigration and the turn in public sentiment. Truth be told, if someone did something wrong 12 yrs ago(crossed the fence), now is married to a US citizen and has 3 US children, what do you do with them? What about the 3yr old who was brought to the USA by their parents and knows no other system? Perhaps a few years ago joe public would have given them a pass, no more, the debate has become so nasty that positions have been hardened to the point that reason does not prevail. Another reason has something to do with the perceived sense of entitlement Americans sensed in the illegal immigrant community(of course fanned by Lou Dobbs and his ilk). These are complex issues and generally you will get a lot further appealing to someones sense of fairness than explaining how you are entitled to something and will take it from them if it is not given to you.


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  • nk2006
    10-03 11:41 AM
    Hello Friends and my fellow GC awaiters..
    Is it worth taking the risk and go with the labor substitution?
    The second question/advice I'd like from you is:
    If I go back to the same company after 6 months because of some issue with the labor can I still preserve my 2003 PD?
    1MoreDesi !

    First of all couple of things: (i) As of now there is no exemption for master degree holders (either from US or outside). There are provisions in SKIL bill and CIR but as you might know already they havnt yet passed in the congress and there is no gaurantee if/when they will be passed. (ii) Labor substitution is available now - this can go away or can stay because of large number of comments.

    I can understand your dilemma. I was in a similar situation last year. My new employer "assured" me labor sub. But after a few months they backtracked saying the lawyer thinks that it wont match with my skills etc. and some such technicalities. So be very careful/particular about if your new employer will use substitution for sure. Next thing to consider (actually most important one in ideal circumstances) is which job is in-line with your future plans and which one you like the most. If your present one is very good and you are very happy there - then I think its worth staying and hope for the best in the coming bills. If you think both are of same nature then take the sub (while maintaining a good relations with old employer) and get the greencard early. In my case I left a job that I loved the most and was in line with my future plans - thinking that if I get GC early it will ease my tension and sleep better in nights and hoping that my new employer would do everything they mentioned before joining there. Now they didnt give me the sub (but are applying in PERM) and my previous employer situation is also changed and are in a hiring freeze (taking me back is now considered a new hiring) - so I am feeling stuck and unhappy. I am posting this just so you are aware of possible risks. Hope this helps.

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  • alterego
    12-14 05:26 PM
    An additional thing I want to point out is that the US cannot make itself diverse by restricting immigration to a diverse population mix. It is a well known fact that Hispanic american women bear many more children than Caucasian american women. How does america fix that, and if it does not then why talk about diversity in immigration?


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  • svr_76
    05-12 02:13 PM
    I think this forum is the wrong place to discuss any of this. The thread must be deleted.

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  • breddy2000
    09-04 03:54 PM
    If this thread (forum) was a court room. It would have been declared by Judge that YSR is indeed the most corrupt politician AP had and pending further investigation all the occupied & grabbed lands, wealth be ordered to pay to the victims. In addition, the Judge would put a life time ban his Son from active politics.

    I hope all posters, readers will condemn corruption and blood politics and see US system (for we being in US) as an example for India. No one can better understand American system than us and how it can be modulated to fit into India.

    If this was about you being having admin previledges,you wud have been taken to trial for misusing this board.....AH...


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  • yabadaba
    07-04 08:52 AM
    I am writing to you to ask for your support is covering one of the news item that seems to have been buried because the people impacted are Americans of the future and are not a vocal constituency.

    Skilled immigrants like Doctors, Engineers & Scientists have been paying all the taxes, following all the laws of the land and have been stuck in huge wait period of 3- 7 years to obtain green card.

    On 13th of June 07, USCIS announced that all these people stuck for years can apply for the green card starting 2nd July 07. Everyone spent 2 weeks & $3000 per person at the minimum towards Attorney fees, medical tests & other non-recoverable direct costs prepared the application and started to send it to USCIS starting 2nd July 07.

    In an unusual act of absolute disregard to the hardships and financial loss of these applicants, USCIS announced on the morning of 2nd July 07 that they will not accept any application for green card.


    During the immigration debate you covered groups like NumbersUSA that have restrictionist agenda. The rallying cry for all anti immigrants was for people to come legally. We have come here legally but are mired in the bureaucratic road block because no one from the 4th estate holds their feet to the fire.

    Currently, Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren has asked Secretary Rice and Secretary Chertoff for answers. A number of lawyers have claimed this is tantamount to a scandal at USCIS since they have not followed the law. American Immigration Lawyers Association is in the process of filing a class action lawsuit.

    The media is the only voice for us to reach the law makers and the American public. During the comprehensive immigration reform we kept hearing that we need to have a national debate on immigration. We are here. We are suffering. We are waiting. Would not a debate on legal immigrants we a good place to start?

    Links for your research




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  • franklin
    02-13 03:09 PM
    I take up the challenge. I'm ROW, maybe this is the spur that will make me participate somewhat.

    Yes, such a pity there was no one from the ROW group present in DC

    10-09 02:49 PM
    A GC cannot be filed directly from a TN or E3 status.

    As mihird said, not much difference. I am a naturalized Canadian working in US for last 7 years (country of birth � India) � Canadian citizenship does not help much in I485 stage since you will fall under the quota of country of birth. One small advantage is consular processing � Canadians can apply for CP at Montreal which used to be faster. But with retrogession and improved AOS processing in USA makes this irrelevant.

    Another general advantage is use of TN1 visa instead of H1B. You can actually start/continue green card processing while in TN1 visa status � it needs some careful planning but it can be done. Basically you cannot get/renew TN1 visa once I-485 is filed but until then you can continue on TN1 while your labor/140 is under process and while you are waiting for the dates to get current. But this aspect is generally misunderstood and many lawyers insist on transferring to H1B even before starting the labor process (which happened in my case leading to my present state where I am extending h1b beyond 6th/7th year). Basically with a good lawyer and flexible employer you can use TN1 as long as possible, so that you don�t get into 6th/7th year h1b tensions � this can be a slight advantage in some cases.

    05-09 05:08 PM
    All I can say is.. HUH???

    Now there are plenty of reasons to not go to canada.. but going to India and applying from there is NOT one of them:)

    Do you even know how long the wait is from India for processing time??
    It's 5 years and increasing BY THE DAY!

    for those in US GC and thinking of applying to canadian pr...

    DONT DO IT !!!

    You just end up spending around 3k-6k for you and your dependants, and it will go unused since you are waiting for US GC.

    the best way for canadian shit is to go back to India when you are sure you will not get the US GC. You can then apply for canadian PR from India.

    The canadian government just takes your money and you dont get jobs easily. Most of the jobs are for people with job experience "INSIDE CANADA".

    India is a good place to shit too. Your daily toilet does not HAVE to be in some other country if the restrooms in US are closed forever.

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