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  • dealsnet
    09-03 11:22 PM
    I never thought CHANDUV23 will do dirty politics. A time will come to show the real color of the people. Do not rejoice when some one who is dead. It can happen to anyone. No guarenty we will see the home land again.

    If you don't know the difference between Policies and Politics I cannot help it.I'm talking about policies created by Govt in Power
    That's all I can say....Good luck

    And your ID is revealed _TrueFacts....That's all I can say and which u are very well aware of.

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  • GCwaitforever
    02-14 12:50 PM
    Let us get started with legal opinion of Rajiv Khanna. I believe we have strong grounds for the class action law suit for past sins of USCIS - not utilizing full capacity of VISAs for GC processing. That is defintely operational inefficiency. But USCIS might claim that this may never happen again now that the name check requirement is waived off after 180 days.

    Around 80 people voted for the law suit. I am willing to contribute $10 thru Paypal on my part. Please pitch in to make it $600 for the consultation. Then one of the folks in DC can get in touch with Rajiv.

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  • pitha
    02-18 08:47 PM
    Aiming London shooting Tokyo that's what your reasoning looks like. There's no point in arguing\discussing based on such logic.

    You are not a messenger, you are a opponent of 485 measure, I think there is a big and clear difference between both.

    If 485 measure is not of much help, I wonder why all the poeple who have applied for 485 keep wasting there time and money renewing there EAD every year.

    Don't shoot the messenger.

    A couple of studies came to mind recently that don't involve immigration.

    In Florida there was a plan over 30 years ago to build an artifical reef by planting 2 million tires. Seemed like a good idea but didn't serve its intended purpose and did the exact opposite. Now, 30 years later the person who pushed to do this is saying it was a mistake. There has been so much damage caused by this and now 30 years later they want to fix it. It wasn't studied enough and it was implemented and became a disaster.

    In 1999 at Laguardia airport there was a push to allow smaller airlines some space at the airport; even though the airport couldn't accomodate more airlines/flights. There was strong opposition but they did it anyways. Since then; it takes more then 45 minutes from the time your flight leaves the gate to actually get airborn. The flight time from Laguardia versus into Laguardia has a differential of almost an hour. Now; eight years later they are going to try to fix this. Even though it has been a problem for this long. Wasn't studied or thought of carefully enough.


    Some people are of the opinion that people who have EAD and 485 pending should just shut up because they are enjoying the benefits of it. Well guess what; some of the biggest whiners are the people who have 485 pending but still want to do priority date transfer; are afraid of job loss; are afraid to change jobs, etc.

    Becuase of country cap of 7%; someone filing from ROW in eb3 in 2007 will get ahead of you in line; even though you are from india and a priority date in 2001. Currently, the limitation of ROW people is that they haven't designed a system to get h-1b so they will try to go the b-1 to greencard route.

    People who want to get citizenship badly. Once they get citizenship; what is one of the first things they do? apply for parents greencard or find a spouse and file their greencard (no waiting). For people here on h-1b or greencard and they want babysitters they get their parents on b-1 and try to extend, etc., but eventually parents have to go back. Now; without priority date being current they also come into the stream by filing a labor 140/485 while they are here.

    therefore, you may have a 485 filed but if it is going to take you 10 to 20 years to get the greencard; can you hold onto a same/similar job for that long? Do you think the next step of increasing the quota will come in six months? See my example of Laguardia airport; flight jams since 1999 and now eight years later they are going to decide to attempt to fix the issue. I used to be a frequent traveller and i can't even begin to tell you how inconvenient it is for business travelers to have that type of wait.

    To give you an example; I will post an example of someone on visitor visa trying to get greencard (note; this was a personal e-mail that was sent to me;just in case there are doubters).

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    04-22 06:36 PM
    Check your messages Suresh. Thanks.

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  • bobzibub
    07-12 10:35 AM
    No professional foot ball team? Excuse me?
    Go BC Lions!

    btw, I got this propaganda from the ruling party from back in British Columbia:
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    July 11, 2007

    B.C.'s Fiscal Year End Highlights:

    Record budget surplus of $4.1 billion at fiscal year end allows for investments across B.C.
    * Record $3.4 billion invested in building and upgrading schools, universities, colleges, hospitals, roads and bridges to improve services and meet the needs of a growing economy.
    * $1 billion allocated to reducing B.C.'s total debt.
    * B.C.'s economic growth, at 3.6% of real GDP, was second-highest in Canada and above the national average of 2.7%.
    * Business investment grew by 9.5% and consumer spending, which accounts for about two-thirds of all economic activity in the province, grew by 5.3% in 2006.
    * Third consecutive year B.C.'s Public Accounts received a clean audit opinion from the Office of the Auditor General.
    VICTORIA � The BC Liberal government finished its fiscal year with a significant surplus, which helped fund a record investment in public infrastructure and lowered British Columbia�s debt, Finance Minister Carole Taylor announced with the release of the 2006/07 Public Accounts.

    The audited financial statements show the Province of British Columbia ended the fiscal year with a surplus of $4.1 billion. The surplus, along with a drawdown of cash balances, allowed the Province to reduce debt by $1 billion and finance a record $3.4 billion investment in building and upgrading schools, universities, colleges, hospitals, roads and bridges to improve services and meet the needs of a growing economy.

    �A big surplus means a big investment in our future,� said Taylor. �We are building health care facilities to meet the needs of an aging population, we are upgrading transportation networks to keep our economy moving, and we are expanding post-secondary spaces for our youth. Our surplus allows us to do this and still reduce B.C.�s debt.�

    Taxpayer-supported capital spending increased to $3.4 billion in 2006/07, up $265 million compared to $3.1 billion in 2005/06. Over the past three years, the Province has delivered $8.8 billion in taxpayer-supported capital spending while simultaneously reducing debt.

    �In 2006, the budget planned for debt to grow by $1.7 billion to help finance public building projects,� said Taylor. �Fortunately, we were able to use the larger-than-forecast surplus to both pay for these projects and pay down debt by $1 billion. Building our province and reducing debt are investments that will generate benefits for years to come.�

    This is the third consecutive year the Public Accounts received a clean audit opinion from the Office of the Auditor General. The Public Accounts meet the standards of Generally Accepted Accounting Principles and fully consolidate information from school districts, universities, colleges and health authorities (SUCH sector) in the province�s reporting systems.

    In addition to the Public Accounts, the Province also released its Ministerial Accountability Report, government's annual strategic plan report, and annual service plan reports for ministries and government agencies. The Ministerial Accountability Report details the fiscal and other accountability targets ministers have achieved. Service plan reports summarize the progress of individual ministries and agencies, as well as the government as a whole, in meeting the performance targets laid out at the beginning of each fiscal year.


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  • maddipati1
    02-13 12:11 PM
    its been a while i read the forums..

    well... well !! chandubhai finally cooled down and talking wisdom :-)

    Thanks for all your wonderful help to the community - people like you inspire others.

    Please do not misunderstand my response to your earlier post, I was in no way pointing fingers at you but was trying to clear common misconception that IV must not be looked at like a software company doing good or bad at shares.

    Once again, I respect people's space - it will be great if all of us come together and make this a success

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  • drirshad
    07-30 05:24 AM

    posted 07-24 09:59 AM

    Ron Gotcher has some thoughts on India E2 movement over the next two months.

    More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.

    Even with a cutoff date in early 2003, the CIS has sufficient inventory of Indian E2 adjustments on file to use up the remaining inventory of E2 visas for this fiscal year. The reason that the Visa Office advanced the priority date is to move it up to the point where overseas consular posts can take up the slack left by the CIS's inability to close out enough cases and avoid wasting visas this year.

    The CIS inventory of pending cases is massive. If there were no quota at all - if everyone were suddenly "current" - and no new cases were filed after today, it would still take the CIS four to five years to close out all of the pending cases that they already have in their inventory.

    Overseas consular posts maintain inventories of cases as well. When the priority date for a particular case starts to edge forward and it appears that the applicant may become "current' in the not too distant future, the applicant is told to submit all required supporting documents to the post or the NVC. When this is done, the applicant is reported to the Visa Office as being "documentarily qualified." This means that the case is in a position where an immigrant visa can be issued to the applicant as soon as a visa number becomes available.

    The inventory of documentarily qualified cases with current priority dates at a consular post never exceeds that post's ability to process all such cases within sixty days. Consular posts have very high bandwidth processing capabilities. No matter how many cases become current, they are able to process all of them within sixty days.

    The reason that the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward is that the Visa Office fears that the CIS will not be able to adjudicate enough adjustment of status applications to exhaust the annual quota. They have advanced the cutoff date in order to make more cases overseas eligible for final processing.

    This means that overseas consular posts have exhausted their inventories of Indian E2 cases with priority dates earlier than 2006 and the Visa Office had to move the cutoff date forward in order to make more cases eligible to be closed out.

    This does not mean that the CIS has closed out all of the pre-2006 cases pending in their inventory. Far from it. When the new fiscal year starts, Indian E2 is likely to retrogress back to late 2002 or early 2003. This is roughly the point reached by the CIS in processing their inventory of pending cases.

    Please understand that this is a temporary phenomenon and due entirely to the difference in the processing capabilities of the CIS and the overseas consular posts.

    I hope this clarifies matters.

    Ron Gotcher


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  • imm_pro
    09-23 11:10 AM
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  • sachug22
    09-15 03:25 PM
    Hi ocpmachine,
    But in 2008 and 2009 EB2 India got the maximum share of the spill over visas. But still the dates are in the first month of 2005. So hardly EB2 India moved forward about 6 months to 9 months in the duration of 2008 and 2009 with the help of spill overs. That too in this bad economy where there would be comparatively less labors applied than the previous years.


    I agree the forward movement will be slow, and i am expecting it to go pass PD of 2005 in 2010 fiscal year. In 2009 CIS has many EB2-ROW application pending, and they have processed most of them by now(in 2009). So for 2010, unless they see flood of new applications (from EB2 ROW) we will see EB2-India pass 2005 PD in 2010.


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  • gimmeacard
    07-28 03:45 PM
    I am not with Amway or Quixtar but I think the folks with Amway/Quixtar are under represented on this thread and it's not fair :-)

    Just to add another dimention to this thread I will play the devil's advocate :D

    Here I go ...

    You guys are all wasting your free time bitching on this thread where as we are spending all our free time growing our business. We will retire early as we would make $xxxx/month for nothing when we turn 40 and dont need to work anymore where as all you guys bitching about Amway / Quixtar will still be working hard at your jobs till 60.

    What's your response ?


    this is somethign heard only from @mway subscribers, sure u r not one :-)

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  • newbie2020
    02-19 10:52 AM
    Guys, There was a reference to class action suit on Murthy

    Which clarifies doubts from so many folks whether being a part of class action will have a negative effect on his/her case.


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  • nomi
    09-29 01:19 PM
    Hi Kukitron and all,
    I am having a new h1b with validity 7/2009. But My Visa expired by Aug,2006. Please clarify, can i travel from canada to Seattle thro Road with the expired visa and the new h1b which contains a valid I-94


    Yes you can according to following rule

    There are lot of condition which you need to follow in order to use this Law. That`s why I am asking other people about it and see how many people use it and what they said about it.

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  • santb1975
    02-13 04:16 PM
    This is my first post which was not positive. I am backing up :). I am proud to be part of IV. I beleive in this cause.

    Buck up :) We all go through it. I never take it personally. I would definitely be happy if more and more members come forward and help, instead of "missing in action" when needed most.

    We would be really happy if new members come up and take initiatives (i am now keeping my messages positive :) ) , more active members, more strength.

    participation is contigeous, all we need is some self motivators and self starters to kindle the fire.


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  • manishs7
    07-22 03:38 PM
    This is my reply to these Amway leeches: Whenever I am asked What I do for living/where do I work.
    My Reply (with straight face): I work for a Law firm. We specialize in frauds and scams law suits. Quick as a wink they disappear after hearing this. This has worked so far.:D

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  • grupak
    12-13 10:57 PM
    I advocate talking to policymakers, writing to them, and calling in on any talkshow on the radio/tv - where ever there is an opportunity.
    I am not sure if we can challenge the legality of the system. However, I do question the motivation behind this policy. It is morally and ethically wrong and does not make any economic sense. It is probably hurting the economy, if you get my drift. My thought is that it can be adressed by enlightening the very people who put this policy in place - the congressmen/women.

    Yes, we as IV are meeting lawmakers and lobbying, and media campaign too.

    Just discussing if anything else can be done.


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  • onemoredesi
    06-21 07:39 PM
    Hey guys,

    I think this issue is being blown out of proportion. Its not that easy to get approved using labor substitution. Recently, I came across a pre approved labor but could not use it..just because the skills that are mentioned and what I work in do not match..

    Let us say if my pending labor is filed as a Programmer Analyst with experience in Java, J2EE, etc and the pre approved labor is a VB/ASP position then I cannot use it, even if I fake VB/ASP experience. This is because, my pending applicaiton will be pulled when my I140 is applied and the 2 applications do not match.. That itself will raise a red flag.

    People who are using labor substitution needs to be extremely lucky to have found a pre-approved labor in their field of work and with a PD which is current..

    My strong opinion is that Labor Substitution is not at all the reason for our problems..My Labor still unapproved is 2003 PD and I did my Master's here but my company did not file my application in eb2..I have been looking for a pre approved labor which is before 2003... came across two, but could not use either of them..

    Just my 2 cents!


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  • Googler
    02-16 04:24 PM
    Note that early PD applications of all categories will be freed from the FBI Namecheck blackhole, so the old situation of not-stuck later PDs getting greencards because early PDs were stuck won't happen any more. That is what created the mad, lottery like situation. So there should be slow cutoff date movements in future barring yet another f&#$ up by USCIS.

    When a category becomes "Unavailable" it means that the entire annual supply for that category has been used up for that fiscal year (which ends Sept 2008). Given the degree of the EB-3 ROW retrogression, I very very much doubt there will be ANY spillover from ROW to India. At present, DOS plans to move EB-2 India only if EB-1 India has excess visas. The quota for for EB-1 India is 2803 (including dependents) in any fiscal year. So let us consider some scenarios -- say half the EB-1 India are available, so 1401 are given to EB-2 India -- do I think there are 1401 EB-2 India applicants with dependents ahead of me -- average family size of 2.2 means approx 636 applicants? Yep! No doubt about it! Hell I'm sure that there are 2803 EB-2 India applicants ahead of me.

    Remember also, that the DOL backlog was FINALLY cleared. All those unlucky people with PDs even earlier than mine were FINALLY able to file their I-485s. They are all in the mix now and deserve to get their greencard before I do.

    The earlier situation with the FBI blackhole meant that USCIS could rob Peter (stuck w, early PD) to give greencards to Paul (not stuck w. late PD), hence the wild movements in cutoff dates and the idea that oh, my date will come any day. Now we will really feel the supply constraint, there simply aren't enough greencards to satisfy long retrogressed EB-3 ROW and the permanently oversubscribed countries. Which means that recapture is the ONLY that too partial solution for this mess. Everything we do should be towards achieving that aim.

    And then there this piece of info from Ron Gotcher posted on Feb 14, 2008
    "Last night, at a meeting of the American Immigration Lawyer's Assocation Southern California chapter, Charles Oppenheim spoke. Mr. Oppenheim is the officer within the Visa Office tasked with calculating visa bulletin cutoff dates each month. He offered the following thoughts as to cutoff date movement in the upcoming months:

    In April, India and China EB2 will be set at 12/01/2003
    EB3 for India and China will slow down for the rest of the fiscal year."

    I am riveted by this because I spoke to Oppenheim just the day before this meeting (he referred to it). This was the conversation in which he told me that at present EB-2 India would only get numbers leftover from EB-1 India -- the problem is he doesn't know either exactly how many EB-2 India adjudicated applications there are in any specific PD range -- so every month he makes wild guesses, with the intent of using up visas. So I guess at least as of 2/14/08 he thought moving the date to 12/1/03 would more than mop up whatever was leftover from EB-1 India. Given the end of the FBI boondoggle (the effects of which have not been quantified by Oppenheim or USCIS) I'd predict that even a date in early 2002 would be good enough to mop up. Let us see if he changes his mind by mid March.

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  • sroyc
    02-14 11:59 AM
    I was watching an episode of the BBC series - Planet Earth where people involved in the conservation and protection of the tiger and other endangered animals were lamenting about how difficult it is for the intellectuals to convince those living close to these animal habitats to help in conservation when they are not able to feed their children and are affected by the tiger killing farm animals.

    This is not exactly similar to the ROW Vs India/China debate. I'm definitely not implying that ROW applicants are not intellectuals. The gist of what I've learnt from that episode was that we cannot push for removal of per country quotas without significantly speeding the processing times for everyone. I have no doubt that the per country quota is unfair to people from countries with large populations simply because we are representing ourselves and not our countries here. (We have been bracketed according to the country of birth in order for USCIS to enforce the current immigration laws.) But at the same time, we'll lose the much required support of ROW members if our approach is to unload a few years of our misery on them.

    With so many people stuck in the backlog, we definitely need a one-time fix to flush the queue before we can lobby for removal of per country quotas.

    01-15 06:37 PM
    That is true. No one knows the impact of outsourcing. Because no public data is available unlike H1b or L1. If american public gets exact data about outsourcing then they will oppose that also and goverment has to act. But there is no legal binding for Government or Corporations to give data about outsourcing. Some time back most manufacturing went silently out of USA and when people started realizing it was too late to act. But relaxing immigration will not prevent outsourcing as everything is based on cost

    Then USA become USSR and go down the toilet....

    09-23 02:10 PM
    Yes, mine was approved a month back without any hassles and bought the home ....

    Has anybody really tried to get a mortgage recently? I have been denied by 8 lenders so far simply because I don't have a green card. Most lenders have tightened their underwriting guidelines. They will give mortgages only to U.S.Citizens or somebody who is a permanent resident aka having a green card. There are very very few lenders who will give mortgages to somebody on a visa and the rates may not be very favorable.

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