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  • santa123
    07-17 01:09 AM
    Assuming that the spill overs are effected only in the last (JAS) quarter, there wont be any significant movement for EB2. Until and otherwise the supply is more than demand, EB2 will not move forward significantly.

    But I wish EB2 becomes current in the near future. Correct me if i am wrong.

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  • InTheMoment
    07-15 10:04 PM

    True Eb2 will move and would not retrogress taking the new FY as a whole..but it becoming current by next Oct is a bit far fetched.

    Remember in the first quarter of FY07 EB2 was U with all 01, 02, 03, and Jan-Mar 04 (mostly 03 as 01 and 02 were current for long and didn't have many in the labor backlog centers) used all the numbers. With several EB2's issued during the fiasco + 1st and 3rd quarter and into the 4th quarter, we are now slowly seeing everything till Mar 04 cleared up. It took almost a year to have 03 cleared up.

    And you guess is 04-08 would get cleared in another year :p hard to believe!

    I presume EB2 India will be current by next October. Till now for EB2 India there are only 7% of 140K visas. Due to the new change of horizontal fall outs EB2 India exclusively getting about 50k visas, very little share to china. So this change making an availability of additional 50k visas to EB2 India along with regular 9.8k. So total About 60K visas for EB2 India. This includes unused Family Visa Numbers as well.

    And due to the change to Horizontal Fall out of Visa Numbers from Vertical Fall outs, Its not the India which loses but its EB3 ROW.

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  • amsgc
    12-13 11:11 PM
    When I get a chance, I also talk to my co-workers and friends who are citizens, especially when they say - are you a citizen yet?

    Surprise! Surprise! - many of them are unaware of this racist provision and the response you usually get is "that sucks man". So, people understand. Yes American citizens see that this is an unjust law.

    If we talk enough about it, who knows, maybe some policymaker will hear it from his/her constituent.

    Yes, we as IV are meeting lawmakers and lobbying, and media campaign too.

    Just discussing if anything else can be done.

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  • nixstor
    07-03 09:24 PM
    I am trying an outline for sending to media + lawmakers + ...

    The following is a very rough draft without reading some of the letters posted in the thread. I will read the posts tomorrow and polish it by tomorrow evening. I will need everyone's input since I don't know all the issues.

    What happened

    USCIS announced at the time the forms were due.
    Applicants started filling forms 2-3 weeks before July 2.
    Applicants changed their schedules to submit forms.

    Advantages of EAD + AP
    Don't know all!

    Travel without visa -> saves Embassy overhead.
    Spouse can work.
    Can switch job.

    Why does it hurt

    Medical will not be valid after 1 year.
    Fees more then doubling
    Name checking (which can take 1+ year) done in parallel with waiting for GC #.
    Load balancing for USCIS.
    USCIS which is supported 90% by application fee needs to care for applicants.
    Very little chance of legislative relief for a looong time.


    I am planning to come up with a format for calling key senators and congress men on Thursday morning. Lets do this. Mean while please keep digging and blogging.


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  • jthomas
    06-01 01:25 PM
    Lets start writing to authorities about SSA money. This is the best time to ask for it because we are in a recession. They won't be able to make a decision but may remove country quota.

    Can we make a letter with all the issues we are facing and mail it to all the authorities.

    Can somebody summarise the thread and we look for a action plan. Please do it soon before the fire burns out

    J thomas

    In a way the whole process have no logic.

    to list a few......

    Companies recruiting for a "permanent job" 10+ years in future !!!
    DOL making sure that this 10+ years future job doesn't replace any US citizen !!!
    DOL making sure that the salary is good for this "10+ years future job", using the current data.
    Ohh... and expecting the person to remain in the same/similar job and not receive much hier salary even after 15 years.
    DOS making sure "ethnic mix" by a "country based limit", so if "India" is divided into 100 different small nations, everyone of them will get GC really fast (even though they are all in same ethnic).

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  • amitga
    02-15 08:32 AM
    Very well said & I just feel the same...I have already lost hope on this GC and can not predict how long its going to take but for sure before I leave this place and go back to home country I will contribute my best of share in this fight for justice and full support...count me in with out any doubt!!

    The current situation is a gross voilation of the constitutional right of employment at will. This amounts to Involuntary servitude which is a more techincal term for slavery. Read yourself the definition of both and make your own judgement.

    In my view (though crazy and totaly impractical) the law suit should be against all the employers because they are the one who represent Govt/USCIS in processing our Green cards. Employers told us that we will process your greencard and you will be a PR in x number of years and now that x is infinite. (

    At-will employment is a doctrine of American law that defines an employment relationship in which either party can terminate the relationship with no liability if there was no express contract for a definite term governing the employment relationship. Under this legal doctrine:

    “ any hiring is presumed to be "at will"; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals "for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all," and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work. :

    Involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person's will to benefit another, under some form of coercion. While laboring to benefit another occurs in the condition of slavery, involuntary servitude does not necessarily connote the complete lack of freedom experienced in chattel slavery; involuntary servitude may also refer to other forms of unfree labor. Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount.


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  • a1b2c3
    05-30 01:41 PM
    I've read other people's comments in this thread about how Cognizant is misusing EB1 category. I know a couple of folks who did that. This is something that should be brought up to the right people's observation. I plan to submit WH-4 atleast to begin with, against this company. Please PM me if you know anyone else who frauduently represented himself/herself for EB1 category.

    While you are at it, can you please also request USCIS to revoke the EADs they issued to many EB2/EB3 folks and their spouses in the July of 07 when their PDs were nowhere even close to the being current in the previous months of the same year?

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  • ita
    03-29 11:12 PM
    So am I , I'm sure so are may others on this forum and in India.

    Like I said earlier, in my previous post I just summarized the performance of the last govt.So I'm sure you and others agree Congress won't get us where we want to be.(They didn't in last 5 years and look at my previous post to know where they got us)

    But looking at what is unfolding in India these days our simple and realistic ideas some how seem very far fetched .

    what's going on with Varun Gandhi?Current political scenario in India is kind of reminding emergency times. NSA has been invoked on Varun Gandhi.
    Those politicians are making fun of law.They are using NSA to finish political opponents.
    NSA is meant for nation's enemies not for politician's enemies.
    During emergency time a nation when asked to bend crawled.Hope nation stands up against the similar kind of abuse this time.

    Looks like if we have power in India we can do anything we want. No wonder all the successful film stars are jumping into politics at least in Tollywood.
    It happens only in India.

    I am looking for a visionary who can bring Indians out of poverty, who can give good education, security, health care and good infrastructure. Who can save us from the unstable countries and aggressive China. I am not bothering whether Sankaracharya is in jail or not. How its going to affect a common man who is begging even for basic amenities.


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  • visves
    06-26 09:27 PM
    I did clarify this with a Fragomen attorney and as per them though dates could technically be moved back in the middle of the month, this most likely may not happen in July and also maybe August since this depends on the number of approvals and not on the number of applications received. Even if there are tons of applications received, unless there are enough approvals happening simultaneously, dates would not retrogress in the middle of the month.

    Ok, if the Fragomen page is the source of this rumor: can someone who is a Fragomen client ask their attorney about what's going on here. That might help clarify things a bit. (Given that they are the largest immigration law firm, there's bound to be many IV members for whom Fragomen is preparing documents.)

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  • Marphad
    03-29 08:21 PM
    My point is that a person/politician should be judged by the actions/governance and not their lineage. Congress is corrupt like most parties and that discussion is valid (though I would rather see this forum only used for immigration matters...).
    I can certainly provide hundreds of links to make this a dividing post but I dont have a propensity for it. My point was to a show a mirror to people who post some ridiculous posts but get away since they seem to be in the majority or atleast seem to be the loudest. Using the measures of US, a lot of what is said in non-immigration matters on this forum would be deemed so racist.
    As for Kashmir hindus, I truly wishes Justice is done to them. They are the Children of kashmir. Just like I wish justice is done for every person in India whether the crime be done by extremists or State actors. As for the non-existent discrimination of minorities, I hope you are right but trying to silence people who raise such issues is no way to provide justice. Even to this day, discrimination against blacks is a matter of grave concern in this country. A strength of a society/democracy is the treatment of the weakest/minorities.

    And what is the qualification of Rahul or Sonia other than being so-called Gandhi-Nehru?


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  • Caliber
    09-04 09:37 PM
    Now I think new people are running IV.
    xxxxxxxx (Walden Pond) is not controlling now. That is the reason these idiots have got the admin previlages. Now they do nothing worthwhile. Bunch of jockers.

    It was Jesus's decision to punish YSR for having used his name to kill innocent people. Do you want to be next in line? Learn forum rules. When you do not use your real name, you have no right to use other's real names.

    Walden Pond spent US $ 65,000.00 of his own money for the sake of others and not for his personal benefit. You did not contribute single dollar and talk others with names?

    Please behave yourself.

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  • nk2006
    10-03 11:41 AM
    Hello Friends and my fellow GC awaiters..
    Is it worth taking the risk and go with the labor substitution?
    The second question/advice I'd like from you is:
    If I go back to the same company after 6 months because of some issue with the labor can I still preserve my 2003 PD?
    1MoreDesi !

    First of all couple of things: (i) As of now there is no exemption for master degree holders (either from US or outside). There are provisions in SKIL bill and CIR but as you might know already they havnt yet passed in the congress and there is no gaurantee if/when they will be passed. (ii) Labor substitution is available now - this can go away or can stay because of large number of comments.

    I can understand your dilemma. I was in a similar situation last year. My new employer "assured" me labor sub. But after a few months they backtracked saying the lawyer thinks that it wont match with my skills etc. and some such technicalities. So be very careful/particular about if your new employer will use substitution for sure. Next thing to consider (actually most important one in ideal circumstances) is which job is in-line with your future plans and which one you like the most. If your present one is very good and you are very happy there - then I think its worth staying and hope for the best in the coming bills. If you think both are of same nature then take the sub (while maintaining a good relations with old employer) and get the greencard early. In my case I left a job that I loved the most and was in line with my future plans - thinking that if I get GC early it will ease my tension and sleep better in nights and hoping that my new employer would do everything they mentioned before joining there. Now they didnt give me the sub (but are applying in PERM) and my previous employer situation is also changed and are in a hiring freeze (taking me back is now considered a new hiring) - so I am feeling stuck and unhappy. I am posting this just so you are aware of possible risks. Hope this helps.


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    07-13 04:07 PM

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  • dealsnet
    09-04 05:26 PM
    Now I think new people are running IV.
    Aman Kapoor (Walden Pond) is not controlling now. That is the reason these idiots have got the admin previlages. Now they do nothing worthwhile. Bunch of jockers.

    If this was about you being having admin previledges,you wud have been taken to trial for misusing this board.....AH...


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  • ryan
    08-18 10:44 PM
    I'm not from India, so you know how non-Indian will look at this issue..

    And it goes on and on for 66 mins or 2 hrs until he finally realize that he's a nobody in US.

    This is the kinda thread that non-Indian will laugh at. There's lots of non-Indian that goes to this public forum (such as me). Just trying to help IV to not lose credential just because of this sorts of "indian" exclusive thread.

    I agree / hear you. The post is laughable, nevertheless if you read through the comments, you'd see being 'Indian' does not equate to having similar views. I think the majority of Indian folks who leave their homes / loved ones to make a living have more intelligence and substance to them than the bozos in 'bollywood' - a national and an international embarrassment. Admins, please consider removing this post.

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  • mbartosik
    12-13 05:52 PM
    it's not the cost of getting an opinion that matters.
    See my two prior posts on being pragmatic.


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  • punjabi
    07-22 10:40 AM
    People in Quixstar and Amway can best be described as organisms who would like to prey on your humble attitude so they can eat away your wallet including your peace of mind. Like FBI, they are supposed to extract all the information about your job, relatives, wife, cousins, friends, and so on. They won't feel bad to ask as personal questions as what time you go to work, what you do on weekends, which movies you watch, what color of underwear you wear, etc. etc.

    Shameless creatures!

    Their bodies still run a blood of human beings (so scientifically they are still classified as among the species of humanoids) but they are left to pest around the people at places like malls and shopping centers to suck the blood out of them, just like the brown-colored-termites in the backyard of my previous house.

    It is run by people with covert personalities. Look at the definition of the word 'covert' and you will understand.

    One day, I was talking to my uncle in punjabi language over the phone at Target store. After the conversation ended, I found a guy standing next to me in the same aisle. He told me "You speak punjabi too? It is hard to find people who speak punjabi here. By the way, I am also from Punjab" and he extends his hands forward. He asked me my orkut id, facebook id, phone number, which company I work for, when I do get off from work, when can I meet him for a cup of coffee. Thankfully, I knew these kind of people before.

    One of my friends told me that Quixstar was first known as Amway in US. And they had to change the name to avoid taxes or some kind of heavy penalty.

    Next time you step out of your house, remember what your mommy told you 20 years ago:


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  • gsc999
    07-03 09:50 PM

    Thanks for your time in putting this together

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  • newbee7
    07-03 07:02 PM

    I provided the link to Sen. Lofgren's website

    and to Siskind blog calling this a scandal.

    Please do the same. Too many request will get us noticed and can result in a larger story.

    07-04 12:30 PM
    What is $170 and $180? I got this number from my attorney.

    However, we are getting conflicting #s on application fee!

    Please resolve these #s. Lawyer fees vary. So we can give least and max #s.

    There should be no discrepancy in the application fee - I pulled out these numbers from

    EAD (I-765): $180
    AP (I-131): $170

    As for lawyer fees, it varies by State, Experience, Number of dependents, and Reputation. I think the $2000 is representative of lawyer fees for primary applicant plus 1 dependent. I spoke to a lawyer in California who charges around $1700 for I-485/AP/EAD, and multiply that by the number of dependents. Another one on the east coast said $2000 for primary and spouse.

    If you go for I-140/I-485, then lawyer fees for 1 applicant can go up to $4000 easy.

    01-13 03:17 PM
    Plainspeak - From one girl to another - you have a lot of time to kill :) For members who did not get worked up by your post, everyone has had a good laugh! Thanks.

    Trying to have a discussion on your points is meaningless (at least to me) as I do not believe in conceit.

    BTW, you don't have to respond to my post, as I will not be checking it.

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